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January 25, 2010

January Chat Transcript Pt. 1

The first few minutes were cut off, but here is the majority of the conversation held on January 24, 2010.

17:07:02 ‹azoxystrobin› and greeting from the land of foie gras (France)
17:07:02 ‹Helatus› I agree Ethan.. it makes buying boosters even more valuable
17:07:22 ‹Ying Zheng› Many of our players also likes that the CEE will soon be available via the local hobby store
17:08:05 ‹spacemonkeymafi› Yes, Ying brings up a good point and I think my local groups like seeing the exclusives available through their FLGS
17:08:40 * Larkin_Vain joins Arcane Legions
17:08:41 ‹Helatus› Will the price points of the CCE figures remain the same?
17:08:47 ‹Imperator› Yeah, we're excited about that too. It puts great playing pieces in more peoples' hands and gives the retailers something to be excited about. Win win.
17:08:50 ‹Larkin_Vain› hello
17:09:07 ‹AL_Tyler› Just curious, What time is it for everyone?
17:09:07 ‹Culven› I also like seeing them available through the store.  Then they don't seem like something that only a few people can get.
17:09:17 ‹AL_Tyler› The price will be the same
17:09:19 ‹azoxystrobin› i just have to say, that while we are all very chuffed about the centurion club, there needs to be some spreading of the word
17:09:20 ‹Larkin_Vain› 12:09 am in Hawaii
17:09:26 ‹garek365› also the shipping charges outside the states were horrible
17:09:31 ‹azoxystrobin› people need to know about it
17:09:42 ‹Ying Zheng› 11 pm in Germany
17:09:44 ‹Helatus› 5 pm here in PA
17:09:46 ‹azoxystrobin› get some interest back into what was seen as a very promising game
17:09:56 ‹AL_Tyler› azoxystrobin is right!
17:09:57 * jgolbez joins Arcane Legions
17:10:00 ‹Larkin_Vain› even in the state shipping was horrible. I paid 15 bucks when i saw it only cost 8 to ship.
17:10:06 ‹azoxystrobin› thx :)
17:10:15 ‹jgolbez› Hello
17:10:15 ‹Imperator› we agree. this is _big_ news!
17:10:19 ‹Helatus› Yes please put flyers in new boosters directing peopel to create units online
17:10:28 ‹azoxystrobin› but like, the forums were all like: kewl new game
17:10:38 ‹Grim6› The exclusive cards sound really good, it's a nice balance to opening the unit builder
17:10:41 ‹azoxystrobin› then, blam!, a couple weeks later back into 40Kids
17:11:04 ‹spacemonkeymafi› yeah, or put the info on a sticker on the starter (or a flyer in all the products) indicating this innovation
17:11:07 * maverickman5 joins Arcane Legions
17:11:46 ‹azoxystrobin› What might be nice would be an army builder type software
17:11:52 ‹Larkin_Vain› oh for any of the chat mods.. the larkinvain account is me, but when I went to a different computer it didn't allow me in chat so I had to register this account just to get in. Hope that's ok.
17:11:57 ‹azoxystrobin› just for putting armies together
17:12:19 ‹azoxystrobin› erm, rackhams AT43 has a sort of fan based one which works really well
17:12:22 ‹azoxystrobin› free too
17:12:35 ‹jgolbez› I suggested something similar on the forum today
17:12:38 ‹jgolbez› an army builder
17:12:43 ‹Imperator› There is a limited amount of stuff we can do to announce new enhancements to the game, and we'll do whatever we can.
17:12:46 ‹spacemonkeymafi› AZ- I think there are a few good excel sheets floating around that can help you with army building
17:12:46 ‹azoxystrobin› well, i agree with you :)
17:12:54 ‹jgolbez› ^.^
17:12:54 ‹Imperator› But the single biggest method we have to get the word out is you guys.
17:13:18 ‹AL_Tyler› We need ideas to get new people playing the game. Any thoughts ?
17:13:22 ‹azoxystrobin› yes, i use excel sheets for just about all my games, but this AT43 one is easy to use and very user friendly
17:13:24 ‹Grim6› One player, who was not a centurion club member, just fielded a full custom sortie army for the Egyptians tonight!
17:13:52 ‹jgolbez› Go Mike
17:13:56 ‹AL_Tyler› Regarding army building functionality- Has anyone tried the iPhone App ?
17:13:59 ‹Imperator› If we tell somebody our stuff is cool, folks just think we're trying to sell them stuff. If you guys tell them something is cool, they know it's coming from a fellow gamer.
17:14:07 ‹jgolbez› I dont have an iPhone
17:14:10 ‹azoxystrobin› Someone is going to say something about blue. You know it's going to happen.
17:14:16 ‹Larkin_Vain› i have android
17:14:16 ‹azoxystrobin› I'll go get mah iphone and find out
17:14:22 ‹Larkin_Vain› a nexus one
17:14:24 ‹Helatus› I wasn't aware there was an Iphone app
17:14:39 ‹Grim6› Webpage is mentioned here as a turn off for new players
17:14:42 ‹loucksj› @Grim6 you guys played yet, or is that later?
17:14:51 ‹Larkin_Vain› as far as getting new people I suggest a volunteer program.
17:14:57 ‹TheKeeper› Demo the game at gaming conventions. I got it handled for WELLS at Garycon 2.
17:15:07 ‹jgolbez› If you want ideas to get new people playing, for our location what worked was having the game being played and word of mouth. demos, etc. I know thats not new but worked at our store
17:15:29 ‹Culven› I think that the Centurion Club Exclusive figures on the table are one of the best ways to get the attention of new players.  They are big and colourful, and noticable from a distance.
17:15:32 ‹Grim6› we just finished up two league games - 1x Jaws of Death and 1x Ghosts of battle
17:15:46 ‹loucksj› I'm just curious how the all Egyptian sortie army did.
17:16:26 ‹jgolbez› Did Mike really field all sorties? I think hen learned a lot playing against Grim and I, haha
17:16:37 ‹Grim6› Egyptian sorties won 21 to 9 on the Ghosts of Battle
17:16:48 ‹Larkin_Vain› ? I'm lost....
17:16:50 ‹Grim6› !!!
17:17:09 ‹Culven› I have to agree with Grim6 about the website.  It is difficult to navigate, and the Forums are even worse.
17:17:28 ‹AL_Tyler› The iPhone app is in Alpha. but you can get it (we like to share). And it has an Army Builder in it.
17:17:30 ‹azoxystrobin› is the app just called arcane legions?
17:17:31 * spike1111 joins Arcane Legions
17:17:40 ‹loucksj› Bam!  He should post that army on the site.
17:17:45 ‹Larkin_Vain› will there be an andorid version?
17:17:46 ‹loucksj› Maybe do a little strateg walkthrough.
17:17:50 ‹AL_Tyler› Az- Yes
17:17:57 ‹Culven› I think that set days at stores are also important.  Players need to know when they can show up and have opponents.
17:18:01 ‹azoxystrobin› thx, dl now
17:18:04 ‹TheKeeper› I will also be running AL at this years Spring Hoopla. If you like (love) a game, or gaming system, you gotta support it. Else it forever dissappears.
17:18:08 ‹Ying Zheng› Regarding new players: I am not sure what the target group is...The Hradcore tabletop player of the casual hobby gamer?
17:18:15 ‹AL_Tyler› Larkin- Not in the cards yet, but possibly.
17:18:20 ‹spike1111› when is the new set of bosters coming out and
17:18:26 ‹Larkin_Vain› thanks Tyler.
17:18:37 ‹azoxystrobin› thats a good question
17:18:41 ‹Grim6› From playing other games, I would also recommend dedicated prize support for the Leagues
17:18:48 ‹spike1111› when is the roman  spechel unit be avable
17:19:01 ‹TheKeeper› ALL TYPES! Even roleplaying. They need a way to fight large battles.
17:19:16 ‹azoxystrobin› wuts spechel? a kind of germ unit? :D
17:19:35 ‹spike1111› the roman  seige
17:19:49 ‹azoxystrobin› i dunno, i think casual gamers would be a good start, no need to paint or anything
17:19:54 ‹azoxystrobin› just setup and go
17:19:56 ‹Grim6› One comment here, they'd rather see the winner get a big prize than everyone get little prize, maybe a mix of both, some participation przes, but still a bigger prize for the winner
17:20:03 ‹azoxystrobin› no extra equipment needed
17:20:03 ‹spike1111› Centurion Club Exclusive: Siege Engines of Rome
17:20:05 ‹AL_Tyler› Ying - Arcane was designed to be for more casual players, but we think that with 4th edition D&D being...let's say...challenged, that we may pick up some players who want a faster, simpler combat system
17:20:24 ‹Grim6› of course, that it might be a drain on your resources, and so might not be completely possible
17:20:28 ‹jgolbez› I like 4E. I play a game every other week >.<
17:20:34 ‹azoxystrobin› lol edition wars in AL chatroom :D
17:20:43 ‹Larkin_Vain› here locally it's both. It's has the strategic depth for a the more dedicated gamer
17:20:45 ‹Ying Zheng› I had some sucess with casual gamers but it seems difficult to convert WH-players
17:20:45 ‹Culven› In my store, the game is appealing more to the table-top wargamers.  It gives them a cheap, easy, and ready to play alternative to Warhammer.
17:20:55 ‹Larkin_Vain› yet easy for those new to the hobby.
17:20:59 ‹AL_Tyler› We are thinking about promoting a regular game night. But how do we get new guys into your groups?!
17:21:04 ‹azoxystrobin› anything that isnt WH is hard for them
17:21:07 ‹Larkin_Vain› I have to agree i love this game more than warhammer
17:21:20 ‹azoxystrobin› better than 40Kids
17:21:26 ‹Imperator› Ying - I would speculate that both demographics you mentioned are represented in this chat.
17:21:38 ‹azoxystrobin› without a shadow of a doubt. Then again, most other games are.
17:21:39 ‹jgolbez› I got into AL for two reasons. One, I liked the strategy and tactical options for army/unit building and simple gameplay. two: it was 1/10 the price of WH or AT43
17:21:51 ‹azoxystrobin› price is important
17:21:52 ‹Grim6› We did a late "launch party" tournament for the dragon, and it went over VERY well!
17:21:54 ‹AL_Tyler› jgolbez- Thtg
17:22:00 ‹azoxystrobin› but apparently not everything
17:22:04 ‹AL_Tyler› thats exactly what we are trying to do
17:22:11 ‹Larkin_Vain› it will allow you to get a pulse of the community from those on the ground.
17:22:15 ‹jgolbez› AL is my first minis game
17:22:21 ‹Larkin_Vain› From my expereince I think having a dedicated volunteer program would help a lot
17:22:23 ‹AL_Tyler› Grim - Very interesting idea
17:22:30 ‹Larkin_Vain› it will allow you to get a pulse of the community from those on the ground.
17:22:35 ‹Imperator› Very cool, Grim.
17:22:42 ‹Imperator› You should write up a battle report of the event.
17:22:44 ‹spike1111› so does anyone know when it coming out
17:22:55 ‹loucksj› Anybody done Sphinx vs. Dragon yet?
17:23:05 ‹azoxystrobin› the sphinx is out???
17:23:10 ‹Larkin_Vain› yep
17:23:13 ‹Imperator› The Dragon is in March.
17:23:18 ‹Helatus› One thing I really like about games such as Mechwarrior and Mageknight was tournaments with nice LE prizes.  Maybe this is something that can be done using the Centurion club figures?
17:23:18 ‹garek365› its been out for like a month
17:23:18 ‹AL_Tyler› Larkin- We do have 100 or so volunteers, but I don't think we are necessarily using them ideally yet
17:23:32 * spike1111 quit
17:23:33 ‹azoxystrobin› OMG !
17:23:36 * spike1111 joins Arcane Legions
17:23:43 ‹azoxystrobin› so it has O_o
17:23:56 ‹azoxystrobin› it's hard to get exclusives over here you know
17:24:03 ‹Larkin_Vain› Tyler ah thats great! that at least builds you a good foundation for the pulse of thos ehtat play AL
17:24:03 ‹Larkin_Vain› Tyler ah thats great! that at least builds you a good foundation for the pulse of thos ehtat play AL
17:24:04 ‹Imperator› The sphinx is available via the online store. We're not sure when that'll hit retail yet because it's something of a switch in gears. Probably April or May.
17:24:13 ‹azoxystrobin› thats an awful lot of P&P for just one mini
17:24:18 ‹azoxystrobin› no matter how exclusive
17:24:20 ‹Grim6› I've got the pictures from the Dragon tourney and a more recent one posted via Dropshots, with commentary.  I know last weeks game (Jaws of Battle) is posted on the forum under the battle reports
17:24:21 ‹Ying Zheng› Sphinxes won :) Seems that Dragons need support...
17:24:25 ‹garek365› im in canada and its hard to get them here also, 45$ shipping for a 35$ fig is hard to justify :)
17:24:38 ‹jgolbez› The online exclusives.. did anyone ask why the shipping is so high yet? its whats kept me and a lot of others from buying yet
17:24:44 ‹Culven› Have you condisered a program similar to the old Games Workshop Outriders?  A group of voulanteers who could be contacted by local stores to run demos and events?
17:24:47 ‹Larkin_Vain› Organizing them is a challenge but at least you have "boots on the ground" so to speak.
17:24:50 ‹azoxystrobin› Arcan legiosn needs footholds in the old continent
17:25:03 ‹AL_Tyler› Hel - I worry that LEs dont' bring in new players, but they make you guys happy. We need to do both.
17:25:08 ‹azoxystrobin› more support over here
17:25:24 ‹garek365› @jgolbez apparently with the recent changes the exclusives will be availble to retailers now like the base product
17:25:27 ‹Imperator› azoxyxtrobin: the Sphinx and Dragon each come with two minis with different paint jobs.
17:25:31 ‹jgolbez› Awesome
17:25:40 ‹jgolbez› Then I withdraw the complaint
17:25:45 ‹Larkin_Vain› What I learned though is that you need to give those volunteers the freedom to run events in a way that works with their locals. You can have a standardized tournament or league play types
17:25:47 ‹loucksj› There's not a lot we can do about the shipping overseas.  One of the reasons we're putting the Dragons into distribution is because we know the shipping is pretty expensive.
17:25:48 ‹Imperator› And they are quite big. The sphinx is even resin, so it's even heavier.
17:25:53 ‹azoxystrobin› actually we have a sort of 'local' internet store called "ludikbazar" that got hold of a few dragons, and they sold like hot cakes that were hot.
17:26:08 ‹Larkin_Vain› but give them the freedom on how to run it in a way that bests suits their community.
17:26:32 ‹Imperator› I love the name ludikbazar by the way. I want to name a Gaul after that... ;)
17:26:44 ‹AL_Tyler› Larkin- That makes sense. but at the same time if we want to promote it on a national level there has to be some consistency.
17:27:12 * spike1111 quit
17:27:21 ‹azoxystrobin› LOL, just launched the AL app on the iphone: pitati archers are mispelled as PAtati archers (patate means potato here !)
17:27:33 ‹Larkin_Vain› Tyler - I think consistency comes with league and tournament rules. As long as that is standardzie everyone knows what to expect when playing an any venue.
17:27:34 ‹jgolbez› Maybe its nota  typo
17:27:37 ‹Imperator› heh
17:27:38 ‹jgolbez› maybe they are irish
17:27:43 ‹AL_Tyler› Az - Did I mention "Alpha" :)
17:27:45 ‹Imperator› oooh. ouch.
17:27:49 ‹azoxystrobin› ludikbazar is an excellent shop
17:27:53 ‹jgolbez› <--- Irish
17:28:02 ‹azoxystrobin› ok, well thats an easy bug to fix :)
17:28:03 ‹Larkin_Vain› but if you have hard dates for events to be run that might not be helpful for certain venues.
17:28:09 ‹maverickman5› I like the concept of potato archers
17:28:12 ‹loucksj› The night of mists allowed for an accellerated development of the potatoe gun.
17:28:24 * mad monkey joins Arcane Legions
17:28:25 ‹Larkin_Vain› but as long a there is a window to get the event/league done i think it should be ok :)
17:28:28 ‹azoxystrobin› tyler, where do i tell you all the typos and such?
17:28:38 ‹Culven› @Al_Tyler - I don't know that a corporate level policy for promotingt he game will work.
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